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    Second 'Sunken UFO' Claim Doesn't Hold Water

    Back in July an ocean exploration team led by Swedish researchers found what some suggested may be a flying saucer on the sea floor. There were even skid marks behind the large object that suggested it may have moved across, or crashed on, the sea floor.  

    While experts speculated that the object was just a glitch in the team's sonar, new reports surfaced this week that the team uncovered a second, similar object nearby. But, as the report hopped from one website to the next, one thing was missing: an image of the second object.  

    Life's Little Mysteries contacted Peter Lindberg, who led the expedition, to get the full story, and the elusive sonar scan .

    The tale begins in July, when Lindberg, who has successfully recovered objects from sunken ships, announced he had discovered a strange round object at a depth of about 300 feet (about 91 meters) on the ocean floor in the Gulf of Bothnia, between Finland and Sweden. Adding to the mystery, he noted evidence of scars or marks disturbing the environment nearby, suggesting that the object may have moved across the ocean floor at some point. [7 Things People Mistake for UFOs]

    His claim that the object "is perfectly round" may or may not be accurate; while it looks round, the resolution of sonar image is too low to verify it. And while it's possible the lines that appear to be leading to the feature indicate movement, it's also possible they are totally unrelated.

    The object remains unidentified, but many experts questioned whether the sonar image was accurate to begin with. In a story that ran on the Popular Mechanics website, Hanumant Singh, a researcher with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, explainedthat the sidescan sonar Lindberg used to find the object is not very reliable. Although it's perfectly useful for finding sunken ships that have a high profile on the ocean floor, it's far less accurate for revealing flat, low formations, Singh said. Furthermore, Singh said, there was evidence the sonar was not calibrated properly.

    The story seemed to end there, and Lindberg said his team had neither the interest nor resources to investigate the anomaly. But interest in Lindberg's find was revived a few days ago when CNN reported that his team had found a second, similar object not far from his original discovery.

    CNN's Brooke Bowman claimed the original mysterious object "is not on its own down there. The ocean explorer team also found another, smaller, disc-shaped object nearby. Both show a rigid tail or drag marks more than 400 meters (about 437 yards) long. Their size and distinctive shape are generating some peculiar theories," including that it could be: Han Solo's spaceship, The Millennium Falcon, from the "Star Wars" films; Russian warships; Atlantis; a marine version of Stonehenge; a crashed flying saucer, or a plug to another world inside Earth.

    The announcement of a second, similar object strengthened the original claim: Although sidescan sonar is known to create false images, the likelihood that it could create two nearly identical false images is very remote.

    But the story takes a bizarre turn when we discover that the image of the second mysterious object used in current reports is actually a duplicate of the original sonar image. For example, the image featured at 1:13 in the CNN video clip is clearly the same image released in July. What's going on? Is there really a second saucer-shaped anomaly, and if so, where's the image of it?

    Lindberg told Life's Little Mysteries, "I confirm that we have found two anomalies. We did find the other anomaly approximately 200 meters [about 219 yards] from the circular find at the same sonar run." Lindberg explained why his team had not released the sonar image of the second object: "We decided not to expose that anomaly so much because there is a lot of disturbance on the sonar image when we passed it, so it's very blurry. We can see it's something but to an untrained eye it might just look like 'pea soup.'"

    Indeed, the second object  looks almost nothing like the first; instead of the well-defined, disc-like appearance of the first object, the new one more closely resembles a lumpy eggplant or a blueberry muffin sprouting what looks like an owl's head.

    Still, Lindberg speculated that the two objects may be linked in some way: "There is a chance that the two anomalies had been parts of the same body from the beginning. But at the same time it might mean nothing, it might be a coincidence."

    It was the unusually round shape that first drew the public's interest in the first find, but it's not clear why the second feature would necessarily qualify as an anomaly — especially given the difficulty in interpreting (potentially miscalibrated) sidescan sonar images. Perhaps future exploration with better equipment will finally solve the mystery.

    Benjamin Radford is deputy editor of Skeptical Inquirer science magazine and author of Scientific Paranormal Investigation: How to Solve Unexplained Mysteries. His Web site is www.BenjaminRadford.com.

    This story was provided by Life's Little Mysteries, a sister site to SPACE.com. Follow Life's Little Mysteries on Twitter @llmysteries, then join us on Facebook.

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    40 comments

    • Kevin  •  Middelfart, Denmark  •  3 months ago
      I hope somebody's gearing up to dive to this thing right now with high res cameras & every device in existence to try to find out what it's made of & what it is.
    • Old Scratch  •  Boston, United States  •  3 months ago
      Great so lets get a better sonar image I mean its only in 300 ft a water? It looks interesting. I'm not a extra terrestrial believer type but more time and money has been spent on less interesting projects. What the if it is something other worldly it might change alot of things for us OR its just a big rock?
    • Gary  •  Las Vegas, United States  •  3 months ago
      Reminds me of the joke: "How do you keep a jackass in suspense?" Answer: "I'll tell you later.."
    • Blooming Bloke  •  Washington, United States  •  3 months ago
      Only one solution, find the funding, get your #$%$ down there ASAP and raise them up from the depths. And right now they're not UFOs, they're USOs -- unidentified submarine objects.
      • Micro . 3 months ago
        That would be Unidentified Submersible Object. And they really exist. The U.S. Navy has many witnesses who've even said so. Enjoy your controlled world.
    • michael v  •  New Orleans, United States  •  3 months ago
      Not a UFO but a USO...Unidentified Sunken Object
    • WAYNE  •  Cleveland, United States  •  3 months ago
      they are real I just flew in a ufo last sept! they use me to give them information about the goings on here on earth! they are observing us! they are far more advanced then us! I asked them how life began on earth they told me that they have been using the earth as an insane asylum for thousnad of years!!!!!!!!!!
      • agent007 3 months ago
        You're FUNNY!!!!!
      • magicpat38 3 months ago
        That cold air must be getting to you.
    • BeachBum  •  Hermosa Beach, United States  •  3 months ago
      And if it did turn out to be something interesting, do you think they would tell you?
    • Rick S  •  3 months ago
      Why even do a story on something like this until it is either proven or disproved?
      • John 3 months ago
        Because it's a coverup if they report nothing or hiding the truth if they have no facts.
    • David  •  3 months ago
      Let's show some respect here and let those aliens rest in peace....
    • Step  •  Moscow, United States  •  3 months ago
      I'll have to stay tuned to" Coast to Coast" for the facts in the case.
    • brian  •  3 months ago
      what if it was a ufo and they are still alive in there.... hurry up and save them before they drown... LOL
    • brian  •  3 months ago
      Time to drop some equipment and get some video of what is down there
    • Cannon Fodder  •  Denver, United States  •  3 months ago
      It was the unusually round shape that first drew the public's interest in the first find, but it's not clear why the second feature would necessarily qualify as an anomaly — especially given the difficulty in interpreting (potentially miscalibrated) sidescan sonar images. Perhaps future exploration with better equipment will finally solve the mystery.

      It's an ANOMOLY because it's NOT NORMAL! What a tard!
    • Jake B  •  3 months ago
      Its def a crashed spaceship. Lets see, its only 300ft of water, and more then a year has gone by and there is only 1 image still. Usually these things are cleared up fairly quick. Also whatever it is tracked up hil underwater. Oh well. We will never get to know most likely.
    • Midwest Guy  •  Rolling Meadows, United States  •  3 months ago
      This guy Radford is a joke. His magazine is well known for "debunking" ANY report of something unidentified or mysterious. Whether you believe in UFO's being of alien origin or not, this guy is totally biased. This sort of close-minded attitude is anti-science and anti-discovery. There are too many reports of strange occurrences (made by military personnel and other trained spotters) to ignore and simply dismiss at Radfor would do.
    • John Greystoke  •  3 months ago
      To quote Phil Collins; "It's no fun being an illegal alien..."
    • John  •  Killeen, United States  •  3 months ago
      Maybe it's not a stupid UFO, but still something interesting. Does ridiculing the team really accomplish anything? Oh aliens, sooooooo fuuuuuuny!!!!! lol, fart.
    • Kevin  •  Miami, United States  •  3 months ago
      We will never get the truth if it turns out to be anything.
    • Richard F  •  3 months ago
      Beam me up Scotty.
    • Dorian  •  Kaiserslautern, Germany  •  3 months ago
      This is what i have come to notice about new like this. When they officially discredit a claim, and then move to discredit the individual through ridicule and possibly taking away funding for more exploration, the more the truth tends to lean in the direction of the original claim. It´s more like this:

      Wow you discovered this? Oh we can´t let the public know about stuff like this. Ok people move along, nothing to see here. Just keep moving. Nothing here. Are they gone? Good. Get this spaceship out of here. Make sure you down play it as something else. If the guy that discovered it get´s annoying with wanting to tell the truth, destroy his career and take away his funding. Oh yeah. Make sure he signs a non disclosure agreement as well while your at it.
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