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    Supreme Court to hear challenge to the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code

    OTTAWA - The Supreme Court of Canada will hear a case today that challenges the constitutionality of the Saskatchewan Human Rights Code.

    The case involves Bill Whatcott, who was found to have violated the code by delivering hate-filled messages against gay people in flyers he distributed.

    However, that finding that was reversed by the Saskatchewan Court of Appeal in 2010.

    Whatcott is questioning part of the code that allows the commission to charge people with hate speech.

    His lawyer has said human rights commissions have an obligation to protect freedom of religion.

    Whatcott was found to have violated the code when he put pamphlets in mailboxes objecting to the teaching of same-sex relations in Saskatoon public schools.

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    • canuck1  •  7 months ago
      Schools are for learning the 3 R's, and obviously totally missed the boat on physical fitness. Same-sex stuff is not going away....make students aware of acceptance and tolerance of normal, law-abiding gay people. Also make them very aware, if they are minors, of how a relatively few creeps will be child predators. Teach them the methods those guys are likely to use to "groom." Come right out with it in plain talk. End of story.
      • BRUCE 7 months ago
        agreed . more schools treaching community safety will help kids stay safe,.
    • Aliza  •  7 months ago
      "Whatcott was found to have violated the code when he put pamphlets in mailboxes objecting to the teaching of same-sex relations in Saskatoon public schools."

      Is that a hate speech? I thought, that any of us have a right to express their opinion what we support or oppose our kids should be thought in public schools.

      Public schools are founded through our tax money, so it just seems right that taxpayers could and should decide what they want their children be thought in those schools.

      How about freedom of expression? He was simply objecting to the teaching of same-sex relations in public schools. And I agree with him. What does that make me? If I teach my kids to value traditional marriage, does that make me a racist?

      I don't mind same sex marriage as long as I and my family are left out of it. I don't force my belief and religion on anybody, no one, including a government, should not force their "religion" on me.

      But I can not say that, otherwise I violate the code. Is that right? It seems that we all are equal, except some of us are more equal and have more right for freedom of expression than other of us.

      Now the only question is, which group each of us belongs to?

      Pathetic...

      LOL

      If same-sex relation is thought in public schools, it should be an optional subject. Let each parents decide if they want their kids to be educated in that subject or not. Those who want their kids walk that pat, let them do it; and those who don't want it, let not force them.

      To grand same-sex relations supporters more rights and more protection than to those who support traditional-relation, IS just as racist. Isn't it?

      What's next on the public schools' agenda? Zoophilia and bestiality relationship?

      For those who doesn't know, zoophilia and Bestiality is also known as zoosexuality, is the practice of sex between humans animals (bestiality). People who practice zoophilia are known as zoophiles, but they are also known as zoosexuals.

      Will our pleasure focused society catch up with this one too within a couple of years?

      At present moment zoosexual acts are illegal under laws dealing with crimes against nature. But a couple years ago so was homosexuality. And look where we are now?

      If you want to be a goat-banger or a cow-banger or be banged by them, is totally your business, its "your religion", but leave me out of it, and live my kids out of it. Then enjoy the rest of the day as you wish. You're happy, I'm happy.
      • BRUCE 7 months ago
        if opposite sex is taught then same sex must be taught. up to up to %20 of the population is gay ( yes that is right ) that is right. so of course it should be taught no tthat it is right or wrong , but tha tit is. just the same a hetro sex.
      • Paul 7 months ago
        It takes a particular level of ignorance to equate homosexuality with beastiality.
    • rdsmith  •  7 months ago
      It is really simple: you either support free speech or you do not. If you don't, then you are a kind of neo-fascist. Free speech only for opinions you agree with is not free speech at all. As Noam Chomsky has said time and again, it is precisely those opinions we regard as most loathsome that need to be protected, because that is what free speech is all about. You cannot say that those that support homosexuality are free to express themselves, but those that believe it is wrong are criminals -- the notion is ridiculous. Silencing one side or the other is a form of fascism, plain and simple. If you support fascism on behalf of your pet group, have the courage to say so instead of pretending to support free speech "except" for opinions you do not like. People are cowards -- too scared to admit they are fascists.
      • Paul 7 months ago
        You're over generalizing the situation. Let's say I stood outside your house watching when you came and went. While you were away, I started shouting that you weren't home and that everyone should come and rob your house. Would you champion my right to free speech then? What if I followed you around screaming to everyone that you were a pedophile. Hey, it isn't true, but it's free speech right? The point is that at some point free speech intereferes with others' rights and therefore it cannot be allowed in all situations.
      • boshuda21 7 months ago
        Paul, you are missing the point. Stating a general opinion about something is different than slander/libel which is again different than a situation where "speech" induces or is connected with a crime. In other words, saying "I believe that homosexuality is wrong for reasons A, B and C" is a lot different than saying "homosexuals should be killed" or "so and so is a homosexual". Simply stating a general opinion is not infringing on someone's rights. The examples you gave were regarding someone specifically being named and targeted. They also were related to provoking a crime.
      • Aliza 7 months ago
        Rdsmith you are absolutely right.

        Paul, however, you missed the whole point. Goshuda21 gave you a perfect explanation why.
    • SOULLIERE  •  7 months ago
      A lot of people keep talking about rights, but we seem to forget that there are two parts to being Canadian. We have rights but we also have RESPONSIBILITIES, we have the right to free speech but we have the responsibility to ensure that we do not disrupt or condem the rights of others. It seems that almost everyone here is so absorbed with their own rights they have forgot the rights of others. Next time you open your mouth to talk about your rights stop and think about your responsiblities.
      • Exporting Democracy 7 months ago
        how about the Gov responsibilities? Name us a Responsible and Accountable Gov in Canada?
        thanks
      • Sens_Army 7 months ago
        Exporting democracy - your reply has nothing to do with Soulliere's comment and really makes no sense no matter which way you look at it.
      • BRUCE 7 months ago
        the Un decleration on human rights says "...Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers...." however if it insites harte or encouraged violence against one of the 14 protected categories ( race, religion, sexual orientation , disability .....) then it violates another persons rights and therefore is not an valid excercise of your rights. Your rights cannot be excercized at the expense of another pesons . there are active rights and passive ones. passive nes like rhe right to life, for example. i can take a gun into the woods and fire it,. ( provided i have a license..) but if i fire it AT someone i am violating their rights.
        it is not a great analogy, ,but is uses the same principals.
    • da  •  7 months ago
      the Biblical verses on these matters were not a major issue 20 years ago. the new agenda involves pushing freedoms for one group while muzzling another group. the Bible does refer to homosexuality and it calls it a sin , if Christians can not say what the Bible says then freedom of religion and freedom of speech is gone. the Bible has always had those verses so why is a major issue now? it is a challenge from one group on another group to shut up.

      if one group and parade naked in the streets and one group is forced into silence then what kind of country have we become? even for the liberal, what if you or your relative has conservative point of view , is it fair that they can not speak their mind? our society is slowly losing the reasoning between what is right and wrong and its sad the younger liberals would vote on the loss of freedom of speech for some. at the same time, they proudly claim to be fair ...just as long as you agree with them. "toleration for all" until you disagree with them and then they cant tolerate you.

      we as canadians should reserve the right to freedom of speech and religion. Christians do not hate people, they simply tell the truth. this guy in the news is zealous for his beliefs for he can foresee what will happen if we lie down and let the steam roller of anti freedoms run us over. hopefully he is protesting in a civilized manner.

      in 2005 when the liberals changed the constitution to include sexual identity they vowed that freedom of religion would not be effected. now we can see they lied.
      • CM 7 months ago
        Hitler was a Christian.
      • Oldbetang 7 months ago
        CM,

        Hitler was not a Christian. In fact he loathed Christianity, which he called "an invention of sick brains".
      • Olrik 7 months ago
        No, he refers to God repeatedly in Mein Kampf...
    • john c  •  7 months ago
      any amount of hatred can be posted on the internet, but cannot be printed on a flyer, seems like a double standard to me !
    • Me in Canada eh  •  7 months ago
      Prove that the Saskatchewan school board isn't promoting a perversion of nature by teaching same-sex relations to five-year old children!
    • Jay  •  7 months ago
      First, Bill used to be gay as a teen and was a gay prostitute. Then he "found god" and went on a anti-gay rampage. He is passing around flyers saying "kill the homosexuals". That's promoting and inciting hate and violence. This has nothing to do with the schools or religion, it has to do with the fact that he wants people to kill anyone who is gay, which is rather funny because if someone said that 20 years ago, he would have been killed during his 'gay stint" and wouldn't exist now.
    • canuck1  •  7 months ago
      Hate speech against good people like gays and lesbians can put them in great danger of assault or death. That's well known. Passing out flyers, if they contain false info, is hate speech. btw Bill Whatacott has admitted his gay past.
    • canuck1  •  7 months ago
      Whatacott admitted to the Court that he has been involved in homosexual behaviour. But he says it was "only to repay drug debts" or words to that effect. He never said if he enjoyed it or not. Me thinks he doth......
    • Wilton  •  7 months ago
      As others have mentioned, teaching is not promoting. I work in a daycare and we talk about families and the fact that there are different types of families. Mom and Dad, Single Mom, Single Dad, Mom and Mom, Dad and Dad. There's no reason to go beyond that until puberty. Also, we talk about and learn about aspects of cultural and religious holidays of other cultures such as Ramadan, Diwali, Hanukkah, in addition to Christmas and Easter. I talk about the religious significance of these holidays as well as the cultural and social aspects of these holidays. I'm not telling these children what to think. I often say "some people believe....", or "many people of that culture believe...", and I'll often ask the children what they believe. Exposure is not the same as promoting.
    • lucy...  •  7 months ago
      this makes me angry if someone is gay they have rights, but parents who do not support their children at age 5 being taught about gay or same sex relationships have no rights...they are also planning to pass this junk in Ontario and take our rights away too....as well they are teaching them that there are 6 genders now not 2 according to the Ontario school board we have male, female, bisexual,gay, lesbian and transgender....I guess we can't call a horse a horse a dog a dog or a cat a cat any more either....what a pile of crap!
    • canuck1  •  7 months ago
      Listen up! You would go to PRISON if you posted, said, published, repeated anything negative, even in jest about Jews as an identifiable group. Don't think that Supreme judges can't be swayed. Check out Germany's laws and what has happened to totally innocent and unaware tourists. If I was part of that ethnic group I think I would rather stand up for myself and prove people wrong. Free speech has not existed for many years.
    • Gary  •  7 months ago
      The paradox to all of this is how may people would have heard of Bill Whatcott if he had simply been ignored. Being offended is not a violation of your rights... If that were the case Michael Ignatief would be in jail now.
    • Gary  •  7 months ago
      Teaching about same sex relationships and the distribution of anti-gay material are two different issues.

      While I support teaching about same sex relationships in schools because I believe it also teaches tolerance I also support the right of those to express their objection to teaching about same sex relationships. I disagree with their goal but I support their right to pursue it.

      The fact that there are those that object to the teaching of tolerance toward same sex relationships is just an indication that those of us who support tolerance should mobilize to counter that message.
    • Exporting Democracy  •  7 months ago
      What is freedom of speech? It seems to me practically speaking, it means, we as people have right to say what we want but we need to be accountable for and the Government and interest group have also right to do and say whatever they wish without being accountable.
      Congrats...
    • allen t  •  7 months ago
      I do not believe the Human rights commission has a right to censor free speech. I am a gay man myself. As for Bill Whatcott, I think he may see something in himself that he does not like. I am a committed evangelical conservative Christian myself, which some Christians may find difficult to believe, and some gays may find difficult to believe as well
    • Roger  •  7 months ago
      This story is 12 days old, and people are just noticing it now? Geez...
    • Me in Canada eh  •  7 months ago
      Prove that the Saskatchewan school board isn't promoting a perversion of nature by promoting same-sex relations to five-year old children!
    • Fluffy  •  7 months ago
      What did the flyers say? If it just said that homosexuality is wrong and immoral, then that is not hate speech. If it said something about inciting violence against those of that chosen immoral lifestyle, then that would be hate speech... but merely saying it's wrong is not hate speech. Not enough information in this news article.
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