Pope to meet U.S. Church leaders after archbishop's accusations: Vatican

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    David
    THE POPE, MORE THAN ANY OTHER MAN AND OFFICE, CLAIMS AUTHORITY OVER A CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION AND THUS STANDS IN THE PLACE OF CHRIST (1 CORINTHIANS 3:21-23) AND IS THE ANTICHRIST: To the unity and equality of the apostolate there corresponds the unity and equality of the ministry today. The Augsburg Confession implies that the distinction between Pastors is not by divine right (Tr. 65). One thing is clear by divine right; all pastors have exactly the same office, that of preaching the Gospel and administering the sacraments. Thus there is then “by divine right” no superiority of some ministers of the Gospel over others. Any administrative distinctions between them exist by human right and for the sake of good order. Henry Alford remarks on 1 Timothy 3:1 (“If a man desire the office of a bishop,” etc.): “The ‘bishops’ of the New Testament unfortunately have little in common with our bishops today. The identity of the ‘bishop’ and ‘presbyter’ (or ‘elder’) in apostolic times is evident from Titus 1:5-7.” This is seen also from Acts 20:17,28. In connection with Acts 20:17 (“called the elders of the church”) and Acts 20:28, which refers to the same persons in the Greek (“take heed to yourselves, and to all the flock, over which the Holy Ghost hath made you bishops”). Alford points out the unfairness of translating the Greek word for “bishops” in Acts 20:28 as “overseers,” whereas in every other passage of the New Testament the KJV translates it as “bishops” (cf. Philippians 1:1). If it had been uniformly rendered by the K.J.V., as it ought to have been, in Acts 20:28, then, says Alford, “the fact of elders and bishops having been originally and apostolically synonymous might be apparent to the ordinary English reader, which now it is not.” The same needs to be said concerning 1 Timothy 3:1 where “bishops” is translated by other versions inconsistently as “overseers.” And the combination of the term “elder” (presbyter) in 1 Peter 5:1 with “Shepherd” (Feed) in 1 Peter 5:2 and “bishoping” (“overseeing”) in 1 Peter 5:2 shows again the three terms are synonymous. The translation of 1 Peter 5:2 (according to the superior Textus Receptus) is: “Shepherd the flock of God among you, overseeing not grudgingly, but willingly...” This inconsistency was meant to deceive simple believers that there is some sort of a hierarchical structure in a Christian Church Body. The KJV should have been consistent throughout as it was even in 1 Peter 2:25. A consistent translation is what is being sought after here, not whether the noun is translated as “bishop”, “overseer”, or even “guardian”. Today Christians use “Preacher”, “Pastor”, and “Minister” synonymously in the same way the Bible uses “Elder” and “Bishop”, “overseer”, “shepherd”, etc. synonymously. According to the Bible all terms are the one congregational office, and must be kept this way in order not to head the direction of the Antichrist (the papacy). In addition the adjective “elder” (presbyter) is not uniformly translated by the KJV in 1 Timothy 4:14 where the adjective stresses location or attribute meaning “assembled elders (presbyters)” or “assembled ministers” or “a body (council) of elders (presbyters)” and not “presbytery” or “ministerium” or “Praesidium” (which can and have given the impression of some elitist hierarchical structure which has legitimacy). All Pastors are equal in rank. The other usages by the KJV attest to this lack of consistency (cf. Luke 22:66; Acts 22:5). In short, the Bible has been thrown out the door today by almost all religious assemblies.
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    Keep it real
    The accusations shook the U.S. Church.......

    CATHOLICISM AND CHRISTIANITY ARE NOT THE SAME

    Christianity is properly defined by certain doctrines that are revealed in the Bible., There are essential doctrines; and if any of those essential doctrines are violated, then a church would only appear to be Christian but not really be Christian. What are those doctrines? The Bible tells us. Let's take a look.

    There is only one God, and you are to serve no other gods (Exodus 20:3; Isaiah 43:10; 44:6, 8).

    Jesus is both God and man (John 1:1, 14; 8:24; Col. 2:9; 1 John 4:1-4).

    Jesus rose from the dead physically (John 2:19-21; 1 Cor. 15:14).

    Salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 5:1; Eph. 2:8-9; Gal. 3:1-2; 5:1-4).

    The gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus according to the scriptures (1 Cor. 15:1-4; Gal. 1:8-9).

    God is a Trinity (Matt. 28:19; 1 Cor. 12:4-6; 2 Cor. 13:14).

    Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Matt. 1:25).

    So, someone who is a true Christian will believe these things and not violate them. Roman cATHOLICISM violates two of them (#1 and #4). First of all, by its practice of promoting Mary (and the Saints) to the level of God-like capabilities, they break the commandment to have no other gods before the true and living God. In Roman Catholicism, they say that Mary is the mediatrix (Catechism of the Catholic Church paragraph 969); Mary made atonement for the sins of man (Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, page 213); Mary is the subject of preaching and worship (Vatican Council II, p. 420); etc.

    Also, cATHOLICISM violates the biblical doctrine of salvation by grace through faith alone. Paul the apostle, for example, tells us in Romans 4:5, "But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is reckoned as righteousness." But Roman cATHOLICISM denies that and says, " . . . so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments," (CCC, par 2068). Also, consider this:

    "If any one saith, that by faith alone the impious is justified; in such wise as to mean, that nothing else is required to co-operate in order to the obtaining the grace of Justification, and that it is not in any way necessary, that he be prepared and disposed by the movement of his own will; let him be anathema" (Council of Trent, Canons on Justification, Canon 9).

    Even though Roman cATHOLICISM claims to be Christian and that it is the one true church, it violates the essentials of the Christian faith. It goes beyond what is written in God's word (1 Cor. 4:6). It denies the sole and true sovereignty of the living God by promoting prayer to and the worship of Mary. Also, it denies justification by faith alone in Christ alone. It is not a Christian church
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    Stuart
    The Pope is not a saint he is not your father and he can not forgive sins only God Himself can do that .
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    Jack
    Its about time some one in the church stood up for the victims, consequences be d__ned.
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    Keep it real
    Here is a list of twenty-one passages which condemn various teachings and practices of the cATHOLIC Cult

    1 PET. 2:5,9 ("PRIESTHOOD")

    Exodus 20:4-5 (Images).
    Ezekiel 18:20 (Original sin).
    Matthew 20:20-28 (Hierarchy).
    Matthew 23:5-6 (Clerical dress).
    Matthew 23:9 ("Father").
    Matthew 28:19 (Infant baptism).
    Mark 7:8,13 (Tradition).
    Luke 11:27-28 (Adoration of Mary).
    Luke 16:26 (Purgatory)
    Luke 22:24-27 (Primacy of Peter).
    Romans 6:4 (Pouring).
    1 Corinthians 1:2 ("Saints").
    Galatians 4:9-11 (Special days).
    2 Thessalonians 2:4 (Pope has place of God).
    1 Timothy 2:5 (Many Mediators)
    1 Timothy 3:2 (Unmarried bishops).
    1 Timothy 4:3 (Forbid marriage).
    2 Timothy 3:16-17 (Many authorities).
    Hebrews 8:12 (Indulgences).
    James 5:16 (Confess to priest).
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    paul
    How is he not on the no fly list yet?
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    Stuart
    Yahoo is shadow banning my comments since 2016 just before the election .
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    Keep it real
    Bishop Juan Carlos Maccarone
    Resigned in 2005, age 64, per canon 401.2 after video surfaced of him having sex with 23-year-old man. Remained in ministry. Seen 2010 saying Confirmation Mass for teenagers.

    Cardinal George Pell
    Accused 2002 of 1961 or 1962 sex abuse of 12-year-old boy while Pell was seminarian. Denying allegation, Pell stood aside as Sydney archbishop, while church asked former judge to investigate. Report said accuser "gave the impression he was speaking honestly" but crime could not be established. Pell resumed office. Appointed by Pope 2014 to head Vatican's new Secretariat of the Economy. News broken by ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) July 2016 of multiple additional complaints investigated by Victorian police. Pell allegedly fondled the genitals and anuses of two boys in a pool in 1978-1979, and may have exposed himself to three boys in 1986-1987
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    Kim
    So, “US Church Leaders” for the Catholic Church consists of two American Cardinals and “a couple of USCCB officials”? The last time I looked, there were more than two Cardinals. But, what about the most numerous segment of the Church, the LAIETY?
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    Mike
    Stand by for parishes to hold meetings to quiet and ignore the issues. It has actually alredy started.