Sabrina Carpenter Says Taylor Swift Is 'One of My Best, Best Friends': 'She's Just Such a Gangster with All of It'

"No matter what people are saying, everything that I’ve ever seen her tackle, she’s done so with grace," Carpenter told 'Variety' of the pop superstar

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Sabrina Carpenter is pulling back the curtain a bit on her “best, best” friendship with Taylor Swift, which blossomed after the “Espresso” singer, 25, joined Swift, 34, on the road for a chunk of her international Eras Tour dates last year.

While chatting with Variety for its August 2024 cover story, Carpenter called the 14-time Grammy winner a “rock star” — a reaction to a record store’s decision to file Swift's album The Tortured Poets Department in the “rock” section.

“She’s just such a gangster with all of it,” she said of the superstar. “No matter what people are saying, everything that I’ve ever seen her tackle, she’s done so with grace.”

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Elsewhere in the interview, Carpenter addressed her headline-making SKIMS campaign, which sparked lots of online conversation given Swift’s highly publicized feud with the shapewear brand’s founder, Kim Kardashian.

“The posts about me having to ‘ask for her permission’ — no,” the Girl Meets World alum told Variety. “She’s one of my best, best friends, and we grab dinner or text and catch up like you would with your best friend.”

Plus, as her own spotlight continues to grow, Carpenter said her close friendship with the “Enchanted” singer has been an invaluable resource.

“It’s so cool for me to get a perspective on this whole process from her and the community of artists that I feel I’m close to — to get advice from them on stuff that you can’t just ask the internet,” she told the magazine. “We’re always playing each other our [music], and whenever I start to think, ‘Maybe I’ll get on Twitter [X] and say something about this,’ I’m always like, ‘Maybe I’ll write a song instead.’ ”

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Carpenter first addressed the conversation surrounding Swift and her SKIMS campaign in a Rolling Stone interview about two months after the ‘90s-inspired ads first dropped earlier this year.

"I’ve been very, very communicative with her about that situation, and I just love her so much and support her till the end," Carpenter said of the "Anti-Hero" singer. “So it was no weirdness for me, but I know people will just say things because that’s all they have time to do.”

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Prior to their friendship and Eras Tour team-up, Carpenter — a longtime and vocal fan of Swift — opened up about how the star’s music, and specifically her 2020 album folklore, has inspired her own creative process.

“Taylor Swift posted something when she released her new album in the description of when it dropped and saying like, ‘I usually would overthink the songs that I’m going to put out and release,’” she told Apple Music in 2020. “And I just feel like nothing is certain right now and so it just felt right and I wanted to do it.”

“And that put me in such a good warm-hearted place where then I could listen to all these songs that I’ve been making with such a fresh perspective of like, ‘You know what, this is how I feel right now in musical form,’ ” Carpenter added.

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