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    Spying mystery deepens with lack of information

    Two Russian Embassy staff in Ottawa have left Canada in the wake of spying allegations against a Canadian naval officer in Halifax, but there's little else that's clear about the murky espionage case.

    Intelligence experts and those in close contact with the embassy disagree on whether any Russian diplomats engage in spying, leaving Canadians to try to piece together what bits are public.

    Initial media reports said up to four Russian Embassy staff had been removed from a list of embassy and diplomatic staff recognized by Canada. CBC News has confirmed that two have had their credentials revoked since news broke of the naval officer's arrest, while two diplomats left the country a month or more before the arrest this week of Canadian Sub.-Lt. Jeffrey Paul Delisle.

    Another report pointed to two other staff who are no longer accredited to be in Canada. It's not clear which of the staff have been expelled over the spying allegations.

    Konstantin Kolpakov, a former aide to the ambassador, was scheduled to leave Canada on Dec. 25 because his posting was over, and had a send-off attended by diplomats in Ottawa mid-month.

    CBC News has also learned Lt.-Col. Dmitry V. Fedorchatenko, assistant defence attaché, was scheduled to leave in November.

    Kolpakov and Fedorchatenko were known to circulate around the diplomatic scene in the capital, attending functions with other foreign representatives, Canadian diplomats and journalists.

    Two others, Mikhail Nikiforov and Tatiana Steklova, were listed as administrative and technical staff until Jan. 19 but are no longer on a list of accredited diplomats on the website of the Department of Foreign Affairs.

    A report in the Russian media Friday quoted the country's foreign ministry as saying it was surprised to see Canadian media reports about the expulsions. The report says the embassy staff left at the end of 2011 because their rotations were ending.

    A woman who answered the phone at the Russian Embassy in Ottawa refused to comment on the departures.

    Public Safety Minister Vic Toews refused to comment on a national security matter, but did say: "I'm not aware of why those individuals left Canada."

    Lt.-Col. Kay Kuhlen, defence attaché for the German Embassy and head of the Ottawa Service Attachés Association, an organization that helps military diplomats, said he was advised in September that Fedorchatenko was leaving. His farewell event was Nov. 10. He also said he is "surprised" by the reports of spying.

    Russian diplomatic staff usually do two- or three-year postings at the embassy before returning home or going on to a posting in another country.

    Delisle, 40, was arrested in the Halifax area last weekend. He faces two charges under the Security of Information Act that deal with communicating information that could harm Canada's interests, according to court documents.

    Doug Thomas, a former defence official who now represents a Russian military equipment exporter in Canada, said the vast majority of diplomats collect information, while a small number may pick it up "through alternative means." Thomas doesn't believe anyone at the Russian Embassy, with whom he's worked since 2006, is involved in spying.

    "If you were going to run one of these operations, the last thing, personally, I’d think you’d want to do is run it out of the Russian Embassy on Charlotte Street in downtown Ottawa. You’d want to run it remotely," he said.

    But the Russians "are among the world’s biggest spies," said Wesley Wark, an expert on security and intelligence at the University of Ottawa. "Spying is just in the DNA of the Russian state."

    Wark said the Russians are known to be aggressive, flooding their diplomatic missions with intelligence personnel posing as diplomatic personnel. He said the country, if it uses spying effectively, could close research and development gaps. They may also want access to Canadian communications with the U.S. and the U.K. or other allies.

    "We [Canadians] tend to underrate ourselves as an intelligence target. We’ve long been an intelligence target, partly because of who we are. We’re a NATO country, we’re a Western country, we’re a high-tech country, we engage in a lot of military operations and we’re close to the United States and close allies," Wark said.

    Geoffrey O'Brian, a former director general of counter-intelligence at the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, said there's so little information available that it's hard to assess the situation.

    "Because the government has chosen not to talk about this, it's frankly in some ways a recipe for speculation," O'Brian said.

    Many questions remain, particularly from a counter-espionage angle, O'Brian said.

    "Are there more [people gathering information]? How was he recruited, if indeed he was? How was it run? Who else was involved in quote-unquote handling him? All of those questions."

    Two of the charges against Delisle are for breach of trust and communicating to a foreign entity information the government wants to safeguard, and cover July 7, 2007, to Jan. 13, 2012. A third charge is for trying to communicate to a foreign entity information the government wants to safeguard, and covers Jan. 10 to 13, 2012, after at least one of the Russian diplomats left Canada.

    Defence Minister Peter MacKay described the case Tuesday as a matter of national security because of the charges involved, but would not discuss specifics at that time, including whether the foreign entity in question was Russia.

    "Given the early stages of the proceedings, there is really nothing more that can be said," he told a news conference in Ottawa.

    The minister sought to reassure Canadians that allegations of espionage revolving around the Halifax naval intelligence officer would not affect the country's reputation among other NATO members.

    "Our allies have full confidence in Canada, full confidence in our information," MacKay said.

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    67 comments

    • I Speak the Truth  •  Toronto, Ontario  •  4 months ago
      Question "whether any Russian diplomats engage in spying"? How dumb can you get? Of course Russian diplomats are spying on Canada. They spy on every country where they have an embassy or consulate. Everyone does it. It's how the game is played.
    • Partha D  •  Burnaby, British Columbia  •  4 months ago
      During the 70's and 80's the Canadian embassy in Russia did all the spying for the USA and the UK. We stole a lot of secrets from the Russians. The Russians have been spying on us since the early 50's. People ask why Canada is important. We have massive amounts of oil located in our disputed north that the Russians have already laid claim to. Our Canadian military is completely asleep. Our army does not even have any northern presence. Russia, the USA ore even some weak country like Greenland will grab our prime oil supplies while we sit around and do nothing. Go to the CSIS website and read up on current threats to Canada. They already know what is going to happen. Politicians have been warned by CSIS but no action has been made to protect our artic oil.
      • oreo 4 months ago
        Greenland doesn't even have 60,000 people. You have to be kidding.
      • Gonia Ogo 4 months ago
        Greenland is actually Denmark...
      • Carissa 4 months ago
        Denmark owns Greenland.
    • HL  •  4 months ago
      oh Canada my ....................................................................
    • Zezmo  •  Victoria, British Columbia  •  4 months ago
      I wish journalists would learn the correct way to write military ranks. The first time it appears, it should not be in short form, e.g. Sub-Lieutenant, and after that it is SLt without a period. Lieutenant-Colonel, then LCol later. They are not abbreviations so stop putting periods at the end.
      • brjbbrjb 4 months ago
        Ya right! Period..............................................................................................
      • One who knows 4 months ago
        We don't have any journalists anymore.
    • Randy  •  4 months ago
      I think it has something to do the Sidney Crosby rehab.......very suspicious indeed.
    • zoie  •  New Westminster, British Columbia  •  4 months ago
      Bye Bye, see you in the frozen north.
    • CDNsoldier  •  4 months ago
      Hang this treasonous Navy turn coat !!!- unless they had him spying and he didnt even know it!! The Russians didnt "leave", thats for the media, fact is they had to get out. The navy man should hang if guilty, hes endangered lives and we do lots of exercise with the U.S. navy. Good on our boys to catch these rats,and hopefully our "spooks" can keep on top of our so called ally russia.
      • cjs 4 months ago
        How could one be spying and not know he wasn't spying? If that's the case then he shouldn't be a naval officer, at best a foot soilder. Also when and if the truth every comes out, you can be sure it was for money or lust that's for sure. You are right that he should be hanged for treason if found guilty.
      • izzack2 4 months ago
        Russia is not even a so called ally. Russia is ennemy that pretend to be a friend.
      • S.SRB 4 months ago
        Harper or mackay?
    • OW  •  4 months ago
      What about muslims? You think they are not spying on the Western countries? Or is it an old news and you're not supposed to say it aloud, so we won't hurt their feelings? It's ok to hate Russia but not Middle East?
      • Ninette 4 months ago
        Muslims don't need to spy in order to take the world over - they engage their wives to multiple births and pretty soon the world is going to be overfilled with them. A leading muslem said that they are doing to take the world over without firing a shot! But they are working ahead and demanding many changes in our laws and traditions - so everything will run smoothly when the time comes...
      • Len Hoho 4 months ago
        Ahh, Ninette, I fear you are right.......and the canadian government will sanction it. All in the name of human rights. Isn't it wonderful to live in a free country........of course we didn't mean that "every foreigner could take it". We are being defeated within, and without..........so sad
    • Seer2020  •  4 months ago
      Russia said it is going to stop any intervention of the westerners in Syria, and Canada has just sent a ship to back up the americans in middle east. The ship left from Halifax
    • Daniel  •  Selkirk, Manitoba  •  4 months ago
      After the Russian embasy in Ottawa booted the informants and while being removed they had their passports seized and the visitors visas revolked. Later they had to be deported back to Russia and was ordered to stay out of Canada for life and if caught sneaking back to canada in the future they would receive the death penalty.
      • DUCKY! 4 months ago
        in Canada, are you nuts or what..
      • brjbbrjb 4 months ago
        Hey Ducky, he is from Selkirk. That is where the nuts are kept.
    • S.SRB  •  Burlington, Ontario  •  4 months ago
      Harper Reformer Lost Secret Government Papers for a Month.
    • S.SRB  •  Burlington, Ontario  •  4 months ago
      USA,UK,France,Germany and others are Spying in Canada.
    • JP  •  4 months ago
      This might be a good time to remind everyone about Canada's spying in Moscow in the 1980s. The KGB had made it all but impossible for the US and UK to send covert messages abroad, so the Canadian embassy became a centre of operations.

      Every country does these things. Humans are silly little creatures.
    • Realistic  •  Toronto, Ontario  •  4 months ago
      What Russian spies! Whenever their business goes sour they accuse each other of being spies. But these accusations work. I can see,through their comments how these simple people are reacting to this piece of news. They have taken it so seriously. These people know nothing about politics and leave stupid comments.
    • Stanfield  •  4 months ago
      Wow talk about SPYS look at the United States local police departments using the new spy drone that spys on US citizens !! The US military can also use them now on their OWN CITIZENS .. wow look who has lost their "RIGHTS" !!! You all must be terroists!!!
      They will be in canada soon enough Harper will need them to run his "dick"tatorship .. it's a sad world we live in .. NO BODY WANTS WAR EXCEPT THE GOVERNMENTS !!!
    • Falstaff  •  Victoria, British Columbia  •  4 months ago
      What would Russia do to a suspected spy...? Maybe that will tell us how to handle ours.
    • gps  •  4 months ago
      I bet he told them our WW2 helicopter is repaired and ready for action. F--king SPY.
    • S.SRB  •  Burlington, Ontario  •  4 months ago
      USA had the Walker Family Spying and Betraying America$$$$$
    • A Canadian Atheist  •  Winnipeg, Manitoba  •  4 months ago
      If anyone was wondering if Jeff Delisle was guilty, now you know for sure.
      Sadly, he'll be tried in a civilian court. All he'll get for his treason is 25 years.
      He should be tried in a Military court and made to swing from a rope. That is the true punishment for someone who commits treason.
    • A Yahoo! User  •  Halifax, Nova Scotia  •  4 months ago
      some person who claims to be a mental health expert shows up at the rooming house in nova scotia saying bad things about me kept lots of personel records regarding my past says they dont like me says there the people who call the police on me claim to be russian maybee its about time the stupid police realize the harrasing person is probably a russian spy.
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